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Topic: General Husbandry - honey

27th June 2015 at 10:12am

mpenn
York & District

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Thats is correct you can overfill your jars. Another myth is you have to put your name and address on your labels you do not have to if you only sell direct to the public

If you supply shops then you need to able to be traced from the information on the jar .I do not use my address because i like to keep the front label looking uncluttered

Mark
27th June 2015 at 3:45pm

Nigel Pringle
North Yorkshire

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AdamDarling wrote:
So is the conclusion that we're OK to overfill -
  

If you think about it, it is very difficult to overfill a jar of honey by any considerable percentage of the standard weight. I shall have to see what the maximum weight of honey I can put in a 12oz hex jar is, it certainly won't be much over 12oz (340g)
27th June 2015 at 3:58pm

Nigel Pringle
North Yorkshire

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Ruary Rudd wrote:
 
You should check the 2009 weights and measures act regarding food productiom. It makes interesting reading. You can have a certain percentage of your jars underweight as long as it is only a small percentage of the whole. Not a single mention of overfilling being a heinous crime.

However, you are quite right about overfilling alocoholic drinks. The quantities that alcoholic beverages can be served in is defined under separate legislation. That does not apply to foodstuffs that can be sold in any weight.
          
If you use the 'e' mark then the average weight of the batch must be not less than the stated weight, there is quite a considerable lee-way for a 454g jar the lee way is 13.7g


If the 'e'mark is not used then each jar must contain at least the stated weight.[/quote]     

 

I thought that the e mark allowed a certain percentage to be under weight by the tolerable negative error of batch, but no underweight jars are allowed that are twice the tolerable negative error. Or at least that was the way I interpreted it. With the main use of the e being that if you took on that system of weighting you can freely export and not have to comply with a different countries criteria for their weights and measure....yes I know it's too bloody complex.
There is a whole set of downloadable documentation in section on the government website under  packaged goods and weights.
27th June 2015 at 5:17pm

Fred - Dublin

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My understanding is, if you use proper honey jars of specific capacity and proper honey jar lids, filling to just above the lid's bottom edge when screwed on, is a good guide.
27th June 2015 at 5:51pm

Nigel Pringle
North Yorkshire

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mpenn wrote:
Thats is correct you can overfill your jars. Another myth is you have to put your name and address on your labels you do not have to if you only sell direct to the public

Mark
 

The local Rydale environmetal helath told me that I only need to put "Strawberry jam" on my strawberry jam labels as I sell direct from markets. Retail was a different matter. 
What I didn't ask them was did I need to put a weight.
28th June 2015 at 8:34am

AdamDarling
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Norfolk

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Thymallus wrote:
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So is the conclusion that we're OK to overfill -
   

If you think about it, it is very difficult to overfill a jar of honey by any considerable percentage of the standard weight. I shall have to see what the maximum weight of honey I can put in a 12oz hex jar is, it certainly won't be much over 12oz (340g)
 

A 12 oz hex jar can hold 375g of honey - maybe a bit more.
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